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URGENT - Can you coalesce a RBS tablespace?

URGENT - Can you coalesce a RBS tablespace?

2005-09-06       - By Henslee, Jeff
Reply:     <<     11     12     13     14     15     16     17     18     19  

I think things have slowed down a little bit.  I am over the hump by trying a
number of suggestions from a number of you (and I thank you all).

I have tried to shrink a number of the roll back segments - although I'm not
sure I was 100% successful - the segment size in OEM did not change much at all
.  If I add the segments that were unusually large, basically, they consume
almost the entire datafile (1GB) -

I did try to kill a couple of older user connections that were very old and
stale.  

I am also working with the developer and making sure that his code makes better
use of commits at the proper time (and more often).  I think that this is my
best recourse.  After discussions with a couple of users, they appeared to be
processing a rather large set of data in a big chunk (rather than in smaller
chunks).  This processing is not "normally" how it occurs (in big chunks that
is) and therefore was not planed for when the DB was originally created.  

I did (against my original statement) add a small number of blocks to the data
file (200M) in order to get me over the hump. I am still trying to chase down
the "real" issue.  

Thank you all so much for your suggestions and feedback.

I really appreciate all of the help I get from this list.

Thank you.

-- --Original Message-- --
From: oracle-l-bounce@(protected) [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@(protected)]On
Behalf Of Chirag DBA
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 1:14 PM
To: Henslee, Jeff
Cc: Oracle-L Freelists
Subject: Re: URGENT - Can you coalesce a RBS tablespace?


so jeff

... does all this discussion has resolved yr problem?

U said it was URGENT and of course bouncing the DB is not a long term answer.

Let us know if you r getting any error in trace files.

Regards - Chirag


On 9/6/05, Henslee, Jeff < jhenslee@(protected)> wrote:

We seem to be having troubles with some of our RBS segments.  We are unable to
create new segments or extend existing ones.  This is an unusual pattern and we
're trying to find a way to get people back working again without having to add
a datafile to the RBS area (if at all possible) or restart the instance.

Options please?

Thank you.

Jeffrey C. Henslee (Chico)
Six Sigma Green Belt
Wausau Window and Wall Systems
(715) 846-3196
mailto: jhenslee@(protected)  <mailto:jhenslee@(protected)>

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<DIV><SPAN class=199272818-06092005><FONT face=Georgia color=#0000ff>I think
things have slowed down a little bit.&nbsp; I am over the hump by trying a
number of suggestions from a number of you (and I thank you
all).</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=199272818-06092005><FONT face=Georgia
color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=199272818-06092005><FONT face=Georgia color=#0000ff>I have
tried to shrink a number of the roll back segments - although I'm not sure I
was
100% successful - the segment size in OEM did not change much at all.&nbsp; If
I
add the segments that were unusually large, basically, they consume almost the
entire datafile (1GB) - </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=199272818-06092005><FONT face=Georgia
color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=199272818-06092005><FONT face=Georgia color=#0000ff>I did try
to kill a couple of older user connections that were very old and stale.&nbsp;
</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=199272818-06092005><FONT face=Georgia
color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=199272818-06092005><FONT face=Georgia color=#0000ff>I am also
working with the developer and making sure that his code makes better use of
commits at the proper time (and more often).&nbsp; I think that this is my best
recourse.&nbsp; After discussions with a couple of users, they appeared to be
processing a rather large set of data in a big chunk (rather than in smaller
chunks).&nbsp; This processing is not "normally" how it occurs (in big chunks
that is) and therefore was not planed for when the DB was originally
created.&nbsp; </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=199272818-06092005><FONT face=Georgia
color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=199272818-06092005><FONT face=Georgia color=#0000ff>I did
(against my original statement) add a small number of blocks to the data file
(200M) in order to get me over the hump. I am still trying to chase down the
"real" issue.&nbsp; </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=199272818-06092005><FONT face=Georgia
color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=199272818-06092005><FONT face=Georgia color=#0000ff>Thank you
<U>all</U> so much for your suggestions and feedback.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=199272818-06092005><FONT face=Georgia
color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=199272818-06092005><FONT face=Georgia color=#0000ff>I really
appreciate all of the help I get from this list.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=199272818-06092005><FONT face=Georgia
color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=199272818-06092005><FONT face=Georgia color=#0000ff>Thank
you.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE>
 <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
 size=2>-- --Original Message-- --<BR><B>From:</B>
 oracle-l-bounce@(protected) [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@(protected)]<B>On
 Behalf Of </B>Chirag DBA<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, September 06, 2005 1:14
 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Henslee, Jeff<BR><B>Cc:</B> Oracle-L
 Freelists<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: URGENT - Can you coalesce a RBS
 tablespace?<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
 <DIV>so jeff</DIV>
 <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
 <DIV>... does all this discussion has resolved yr problem?</DIV>
 <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
 <DIV>U said it was URGENT and of course bouncing the DB is not a long term
 answer.</DIV>
 <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
 <DIV>Let us know if you r getting any error in trace files.</DIV>
 <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
 <DIV>Regards - Chirag <BR><BR>&nbsp;</DIV>
 <DIV><SPAN class=gmail_quote>On 9/6/05, <B class=gmail_sendername>Henslee,
 Jeff</B> &lt;<A
 href="mailto:jhenslee@(protected)">jhenslee@(protected)</A>&gt;
 wrote:</SPAN>
 <BLOCKQUOTE class=gmail_quote
 style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px
solid">We
   seem to be having troubles with some of our RBS segments.&nbsp;&nbsp;We are
   unable to create new segments or extend existing ones.&nbsp;&nbsp;This is
an
   unusual pattern and we're trying to find a way to get people back working
   again without having to add a datafile to the RBS area (if at all possible)
   or restart the instance. <BR><BR>Options please?<BR><BR>Thank
   you.<BR><BR>Jeffrey C. Henslee (Chico)<BR>Six Sigma Green Belt<BR>Wausau
   Window and Wall Systems<BR>(715) 846-3196<BR>mailto:<A
   href="mailto:jhenslee@(protected)">jhenslee@(protected)
   </A><BR><BR>--<BR><A
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